“Wait, So is this a Date?” Podcast Episode 203: Dating guys | Autostraddle

A fun reality about the queer neighborhood is most people have actually knowledge matchmaking males. No, I am not only dealing with the cis gay males — i am dealing with almost all of

all of our

audience! (Though I do expect we’ve a big contingency of cis gay male audience tbh.) Whether you’re a lesbian whom dated guys as a young adult or a queer person who dates countless sexes, our neighborhood is actually too combined and gender is way too challenging to exit males — cis and trans — away from the talks.

That’s why this week our very own subject is actually internet dating men and the very special visitor is author, movie director, podcaster, symbol, and my closest friend, Gaby Dunn! For those who do not know them, Gaby was dating males throughout their whole identification quest. They consult with all of us about dating guys if they thought these were a cis lady and matchmaking guys given that they may be as transmasculine. We will also get in to the terrible cis men from Boston that Christina dated before coming-out and wonder precisely why We have a desire to shag Jon Hamm.

But first! We play a game we name “Netflix & Shill” that requires these types of concerns as: How gay may be the Olsen dual vehicle

New York Second

?


PROGRAM RECORDS

+ If you want more of Gaby take a look at
the bout of Bad with cash
that Christina and I also happened to be on just last year.

+ Since recording, Gaby had gotten their two new Swayze tattoos!


+ and merely a reminder: You should watch

Path Home

.

+ essential video footage of
Jenifer Lewis in the 2019 GLAAD honors
:

+ Jaida Essence Hall. The
hottest pig in the city.

+ Check out Gaby’s small movie,

Grindr Child

.




EPISODE


Gaby:

In my opinion if I get leading surgery, it’s going to transform greatly. That’s my personal worry is when I get top surgical procedure, these guys will be love, “Wait one minute.”


Christina:

“Hold on. You got the titties out.”


Gaby:

Right. That’s what I Do Believe.


Christina:

“What’s going on?”


Gaby:

“hold off a minute. You may have complete hair on your face and shh, nevertheless these titties are providing me personally an away” and once I lack all of them, I’m interesting what theyare going to imagine.


[theme tune plays]


Drew:

Hi, I Am Drew.


Christina:

I Am Christina.


Drew:

Introducing,

Wait, Is This a Date?


Christina:


Hold off, Is This a Date?

is actually an Autostraddle podcast exactly about internet dating and learning if everything is dates and other subjects, while we decide, those topics might be, once we record a lot more periods within this podcast labeled as,

Wait, Is It a night out together?

That got a turn. Surely got to say, failed to expect one word to come out of my personal mouth area for the reason that purchase, but wow, here our company is.


Drew:

I understood that within intro, We have given you the obligation of stating something new each and every time. We say, “Welcome to Wait, Is This a night out together?” I then get, “Christina,” and also you can just ad lib and it’s really always interesting.


Christina:

It certainly is something. As they say, heavy is the head that wears the top and my top is actually, periodically, these headsets this podcast.


Drew:

Incredible. My name is Drew Gregory. I will be a writer for Autostraddle, a filmmaker. You stated final time that I always paused before we say my identities. Yet again, i am a queer trans girl and common gay individual.


Christina:

Which is attractive. I Am Christina Tucker. I am additionally a writer at Autostraddle as well as the internet abound, i’m a gay cis lady. By doing so, In my opinion we’re a truly gorgeous team.


Drew:

Whenever I think about Christina, i do believe cis girl.


Christina:

Yeah.


Drew:

I don’t think huge faggot.


Christina:

Yeah. No. thanks. This is certainly, actually, also a sizable section of my personal identity is being a gigantic faggot.


Drew:

Yeah.


Christina:

I heard a rumor that you have a casino game for me.


Drew:

I certain do.


Christina:

By I heard a rumor, after all, you texted me personally directly.


Drew:

Yeah.


Christina:

In lots of ways, understanding a rumor? Who is able to state? It can be anything you want it to be in the interests of a podcast.


Drew:

I’m hoping this will be fine.


Christina:

Oh guy.


Drew:

I’m just probably talk for a time therefore do not have to state anything because I don’t want you to incriminate yourself.


Christina:

Okay.


Drew:

You used to work with an account called, Most. It wasn’t owned by Netflix. I don’t truly understand the inner functions, but essentially, it had been responsible for discussing the queer content on Netflix monthly. Now, before Netflix decided to fire a number of their unique queer staff prior to Pride, prior to

that,

you’re a portion of the staff that has been accountable for pitching the things I will say is actually Netflix’s lackluster queer content. Each month, probably the most account had been tasked with launching the queer material when it comes to month. A lot of times, there isn’t sufficient queer content or perhaps the queer material which was here, Netflix, for reasons uknown, failed to need to promote since it had been maybe as well edgy or was foreign or whatever.

Most of the stuff’s on these listings is to call it queer is nice, but because you no further have that task, I thought you could potentially do one last hurrah, a-two months notice for a moment that was perhaps not issued through this company. I have a game called, “Netflix and Shill” where I’m going to list titles that have been in the month-to-month “it’s this that’s queer and visiting Netflix.” I’ven’t seen everyone, but i really do genuinely believe that many of them are not… at the least the queerness is actually slight or minor or supporting figure. Everything I’m going to need away from you is for that reveal to myself the reason why this work of mass media is really seriously vital that you queer record therefore the queer neighborhood.


Christina:

Okay. I believe i will repeat this rather than get sued.


Drew:

Great.


Christina:

I think which is thrilling.


Drew:

Great. Well, okay. All of our very first subject is, a Netflix flagship series. We will pick

Bridgerton

.


Christina:


Bridgerton

.

Bridgerton

is actually deeply crucial that you the queer area because two stars, the leads of, I guess, this finally period tend to be both queer. We enjoy queer actors even if they are both playing straight by doing so.


Drew:

Which is truly gorgeous.


Christina:

Yeah.


Drew:

Queer actors can enjoy right parts.


Christina:

Yes, they may be able. Genuinely, Jonathan Bailey did a pretty impressive job to be a straight guy. Best for him.


Drew:

I actually do love that. Okay. Upcoming up,

Can it be Cake?


Christina:


Is it Cake?

In all honesty, of Netflix reality demonstrates we viewed during my tenure truth be told there, I’d a golf ball seeing

Could it possibly be Cake?

basically both a touch upon what amount of terrible truth programs you will find or how damaged my personal mind had been by this task. It’s hard to state.

Is it Cake?

had a bevy of queer contestants and in addition, lots of gay judges such as Rebecca dark, which had been really fun and exciting.


Drew:

Appropriate. Which is good.


Christina:

Yeah.


Drew:

Okay. The ’90s film,

You Have Got Mail.


Christina:

Fast cameo from Sara Ramirez and Nora Ephron actually is able to compose and gays like authorship. I’m not sure.


Drew:

I believe we do like writing. I could verify that.


Christina:

It isn’t my favorite regarding the Ephrons, but it’s there. It is from inside the canon.


Drew:

Certain.


Christina:

But i really do imagine it absolutely was that 10-second Sara Ramirez minute.


Drew:

Okay. Wow. I found myself going to state I should rewatch it because I don’t remember them being in it, but perhaps I shouldn’t rewatch it. Who is to state. Next upwards is,

I Understand What You Did Final Summer.


Christina:

I’ll draw a huge old blank about this one. Gays would love terror in a manner that Really don’t because I’m not that kind of homosexual. Yelling is camp. I’m not sure. Who can say?


Drew:

You heard it here, individuals, screaming is camp.


Christina:

Who is able to say? I really don’t even comprehend if I’ve actually observed that movie, to be honest. I must have as like a kid. I need to have checked it following made the decision, no, scary is simply not for me personally.


Drew:

Following up is but one which you most likely have experienced.

New York Instant.


Christina:

That’s the Lindsay Lohan movie, in my opinion.


Drew:

I think it is Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen.


Christina:

Absolutely a Lindsay the one thatis also about New York, but containing something you should carry out with chance or something. Once again, Mary-Kate and Ashley are legendary and that they tend to be swamp witches today and decline to do just about anything typical with the exception of want, make huge beige clothes for line, and that is in some way fairly homosexual of these, but actually, I do not consider I have come across that movie.


Drew:

Wow.


Christina:

I actually do support the Olsens within work.


Drew:

I love that.


Christina:

And/or their insufficient work lately. In my opinion that is in fact equally motivational. They really added their unique time as kids.


Drew:

The next one You will find maybe not seen and you also most likely have never seen it. I attempted to Google how gay it was and that I don’t believe it really is gay. Possibly it is homosexual and I simply…

The Lincoln Lawyer

. Is

The Lincoln Attorney

gay?


Christina:

Just What?


Drew:

With Matthew McConaughey?


Christina:

In case it is, i’m amazed to hear it. I’m attempting to… No, I’ve not witnessed it. I know somewhat about Lincoln. He was large.


Drew:

He had been additionally reported getting like a little homosexual, which explains why i am love, “ended up being The Lincoln attorney about… ended up being Matthew McConaughey playing a gay attorney?” I don’t think-so according to my personal rapid Bing, but listener, if you’ve viewed

The Lincoln Lawyer

, please send us an email. How homosexual would it be?


Christina:

Yeah. My personal estimate will say that there is some lightly gay subplot or absolutely a gay actor involved.


Drew:

Great.


Christina:

That would be the two reasons it can result in the listing.


Drew:

Okay.

My Personal Companion’s Wedding.


Christina:

The essential iconic homosexual friend, i do believe, at this moment in Rupert Everett. Honestly, the actual only real rom-com which has had a finishing that I ever really identified with because lady, you will end up alone but you will have your most useful homosexual pal here during the marriage obtainable. That is homosexual society.


Drew:

Which was an easy one, nevertheless felt really worth pointing out. This, in addition, may be a straightforward one for you especially, the 1982,

Annie.


Christina:

Though I am a musical faggot, son, would I detest

Annie?

Because son, do I detest children singing a lot more than just about anything in this field. I have found all of them very irritating. I believe, “the sunlight will happen away Tomorrow” is among the worst tracks in musical movie theater background.


Drew:

Bernadette Peters is within this option, appropriate?


Christina:

Bernadette is within that one. That’s the one with Bernadette, which feels like adequate would be enough personally. She actually is famously a sticker back at my liquid package, but i obtained absolutely nothing.


Drew:

That’s not a manifestation. I wish to simplify.


Christina:

No.


Drew:

Definitely actually… There’s a Bernadette Peters sticker-on Christina’s liquid bottle. Yeah, observing it nowadays. There you choose to go.


Christina:

She’s above Viola Davis.


Drew:

That’s beautiful.


Christina:

I adore record. Herstory, i am sorry.


Drew:

We have three more. Oscar nominated film,

Never Look Up.


Christina:

Cate Blanchett extends to state whatever she desires considering

Carol,

In my opinion. I do believe that’s it.


Drew:

Okay.


Christina:

Gay guys like Ariana Grande.


Drew:

Yeah. We absolutely saw that movie though i enjoy imagine during my head that I didn’t as it was so incredibly bad, but i did not bear in mind there being any homosexual figures. Was actually Jennifer Lawrence bisexual with it?


Christina:

She had a bisexual haircut with it.


Drew:

Okay. That is adequate. Okay. Two a lot more.

My Tiny Pony: A Generation.


Christina:

I’m not sure what takes place with those ponies.


Drew:

Are they gay?


Christina:

They are ponies. My personal abdomen says indeed. There’s something gay about saying the term, “My little pony,” but what happens thereon plan, that isn’t my company.


Drew:

Great. Well then, we now have another, that I don’t know if you had to see this package for work, but I heard things.

Diana: The Music.


Christina:

Oh man performed we enjoy

Diana: The Musical.

That has been very difficult to view. I know there is a contingent of theater gays that are similar, “No. Really, we’re bravely being released to state that

Diana: The Musical

is actually brilliant.” I would like to have a long talk with those gays because i will be perplexed by that. Really, it really is music, so kind of the same as, gays like a musical, additionally, i do believe this lady valet or something like that is actually homosexual not especially gay, but has actually a big homosexual guy dressing a fairly girl electricity. Boy, that musical ended up being awful.


Drew:

Could there be mention of supports the music?


Christina:

Ok last one, there was an entire, indeed, scene that I really blocked because injury since it is a music number about having HIV and AIDS and it’s poor, poor, terrible words.


Drew:

Wow.


Christina:

Lyrically a flop.


Drew:

Wow. Really, this was a very breathtaking time.


Christina:

Yeah.


Drew:

Thanks a lot for playing this hazardous video game beside me. I would the same as to declare that while I don’t help huge companies or comedians who are transphobic, i really do love the show, Sex knowledge and I also would take Netflix cash which will make my show each time they would really like. Only getting that regarding the record.


Christina:

I do believe that’s a great thing to be on record.


Drew:

Maybe after this I’ll put some popcorn watching The Lincoln Lawyer.


Christina:

Everyone loves that. Of all of the movies from the list, that’s the one for which you’re similar, “I’ve had gotten some questions we have got to untangle indeed there.”


Drew:

Well, why don’t we move on to the topic of this week, which can be dating men. I typically say, we now have a really special guest because we do not really do like perhaps not unique friends because what is the point of having a podcast for that.


Christina:

Yeah.


Drew:

But this individual is my companion. I will allow them to introduce by themselves.


Gaby:

Oh my personal God. Hi. I’m Gaby Dunn. I am Drew’s best friend. I’m in addition a writer and a noted internet bisexual gay individual. Yeah. We work with TV and film. Often books, often podcasts. I’m certain you’ll do the thing at the end, which is like, “promote what you may need to advertise or whatever.” I won’t bore you up very top, but…


Christina:

Don’t.


Gaby:

Yeah. Generally, i’m your own buddy. Hi.


Christina:

Yeah.


Gaby:

Yeah.


Christina:

Yeah. This is the best benefit, In my opinion.


Drew:

Perhaps you have dated one?


Gaby:

Oh my God. Oh child. Okay. Discover my quest.


Drew:

Yeah.


Gaby:

I became sites like bisexual cis woman associated with internet for a time. I, yeah, dated some men. Today, i am like a nonbinary transmasculine person. I am still online dating males, but it is different. My partner is actually a transmasculine individual. They’re on testosterone, then other individuals I’m seeing are several trans males. There is one cis man, but he or she is lifeless if you ask me immediately right after which others that… its gotten to be much more of a T4T situation upwards in right here, but yeah, I used to date much of… we are roasting cis guys. Usually everything we’re carrying out?


Drew:

No. No, I Might never. No. I believe what I’m interested in is, as soon as we happened to be first talking about the growing season and possible subjects and friends, this was back January, I found myself like, “Oh, well, once, we might have Gaby, I do believe are going to one.” That is also an interesting dynamic. I don’t know about this, nonetheless it surely has not maybe not become a reality in some ways. I’m contemplating simply mapping the trajectory of all various ways. Clearly, sex is difficult. Every specific commitment is unique union, but i understand Christina provides knowledge matchmaking cis guys as a cis woman. You may have skilled internet dating cis men as a “cis lady.”


Christina:

Yes.


Drew:

You really have experience online dating trans guys as a “cis girl.”


Gaby:

Yeah, air rates. Air estimates around all that.


Drew:

Yeah. You can’t understand atmosphere prices because—


Christina:

Oh they can notice all of them. They certainly were very audible toward market.


Gaby:

Yeah.


Drew:

Today, you are a transmasculine person however matchmaking guys, both cis and trans. I don’t know. I am simply contemplating getting into the difference and certain patterns.


Gaby:

Positive.


Drew:

And exacltly what the relationship was to guys as… actually, absolutely a huge difference between becoming a closeted transmasculine individual and a cis girl.


Gaby:

Yeah.


Christina:

Yeah.


Drew:

You both supply those point of views and wow.


Christina:

Yeah.


Drew:

Just how exciting for me personally.


Gaby:

Okay. Here is finished .. I am two months on T, today, these days. This is certainly a really different trip. I arrived on the scene as nonbinary this past year, almost a year ago. I was still very femme during the time although, so what does that mean? I experienced long-hair, but We currently have cut my tresses. I’m on T. The T is beginning to show. We have some mustache. We continue to have tits. I simply you should not ever recognize them. Today, it is somewhat interesting utilizing the cis straight males that I see because I’m like, “perform I have to worry about everything identify as? Does that matter in my opinion? Preciselywhat are you? What are you seeing myself since? Understanding this?”

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